Kos Island: Dog Got Shot In The Head & Was Thrown In A Water Well…

Added by Vasileios Pasparas - Publisher on 01/03/2011.
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Again we report another horrific crime….Today a dog was shot in the head in the area of Agios Nektarios (Mitropolitou Nathanail)

The dog had been left tied up on a very short chain for around 6 days with no food and water…. neighbors had been supplying the dog with food and water whilst trying to find the owner to see if anything could be done.

This morning around 7.30am 2 witnesses saw a man, well known to the police shoot the dog in the head, remove the chain from around its neck and drop it into a water well (which was in the same field where the dog had been tied.)

It was reported to the police this morning and to Vangelis Trakossas from Z.O.E.K who also attended the police station with photographs taken by a neighbor. Vangelis then went to the site of the crime and removed the dog from the water well.

The perpetrator is know and the case will be taken to court. Also as there are 2 witness reports therefore there is a strong case……..lets hope some justice is done!!!

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Kos2000

I wish you could publish the names – I think we have a right to know who these people are – at least publish the court date?

Sue-kos

To publish his name would probably jeoprodise the court case.

SLaude

If it’s the same man…..he has shot lots of dogs and poisoned them in the past, and maltreated his own. He is also well know to the vets, (if it is the same person I am thinking of), I myself have reported his actions several times.
ToBeOrNotToBe

WTF is wrong with people!!!Thank goodness for the 2 witnesses,I hope they’ll make him an example for all animal abusers here in Kos!Prison and a huge fine will teach the bastard!And publish his name,let everyone know who this monster is!
http://community.bloghology.org/ Vasilis Pasparas – Publisher

as of our research we know that both witnesses have already submitted their testimonials and the police are in search of him. soon he will be taken into custody… as soon as we find more details on regards to the trial we will update the article…

Sue-kos

Is there anyone up for having a get together outside the court to put pressure on for the maximum sentance and fine?It will serve as a lesson to others that this will not be tolerated.Hopefully as well the person who knows who hung the dog will also now come forward and make a statement.

ToBeOrNotToBe

Good idea!

http://community.bloghology.org/ Vasilis Pasparas – Publisher

anyone wants to let their guts out? submit it on http://www.wisperit.com/index and comment on what would you do to people that shoot and hung animals? anonymously…

vesnaGAR

Vasilis, I made a couple of comments under the name ‘info’ (@greekanimalrescue.com )……. PLEASE do what you can to see that the scumbag who shot the dog is brought to justice NOW and that his name will be published after the preliminary hearing takes place (if the bastard can be arrested within 48 hours of the crime being committed). I know Kos well…. our charity supports the work of ZOEK and the animals ther take care of…. only a week ago a dog was hanged on Kos… what happened to that ‘case’??? Try to get an interview with the mayor of Kos and ask him what he intends to do to bring such crimes to justice…. what about the KARDAMENA HANGING????It may have happened 3-4 years ago, but the person who committed the crimes continues to breed and sell hunting dogs. Even I know his name,,,, surely you do too??!!!

http://community.bloghology.org/ Vasilis Pasparas – Publisher

if @greekanimalrescue.com is your website i would advice you to open a twitter.com account for it.

Maria Savini

Whether animal cruelty, animal killers, child abusers, sex offenders … presents them with a picture, name and address on the Internet, newspaper and makes it puplik! Such people, (you could not cal them humans ..) are a life long punishment …
Suzanna

Terrible , I would also like to know what kind of person can do things like this.
I wonder, if this person can do this to dogs and probably other animals too, what can he do to people??? I hope that this person doesn´t have any children or wife. Really really sick person I think. Give him what this idiot deserve for punishment.
Summerkay

It seems some good may come from this horrific deed…Lets hope this will set an example to people that this sort of behaviour will not be tolerated.
elainec

What a tragedy! Poor dog and poor Vangelis. I sincerely hope this one doesnt slip through the net. I think Sue is correct in saying to publish his name would jeopardise the case.

confused.com

But she has put it all over facebook like a 1000 times??????????

elainec

Where??? I must have blinked a thousand times and missed his name!!! I cannot imagine Susan doing anything to jeopardise a case, I say case with tongue in cheek of course!
Sue-kos

I have not put the name of this person any where,in fact I have asked people not too.????????????????????????

Info

The sentences are far too lenient even when horrific crimes are committed. I would also like to remind the people of Kos about the hanging of 9 dogs in Kardamena 3-4 years ago and skeletons of another 20 plus dogs scattered around the tree….. The person who committed these vile crimes is KNOWN to numerous people on Kos and the mayor of Kardamena also knew the name, but what did he do?? He sent a couple of municipal workers to cover the bones with a pile of earth and that was it…. no prosecution, no court case and the man – a hunter who breeds and sells hunting dogs (without a licence) is still breeding & selling dogs and likely still ‘disposing’ of the dogs which he can’t sell….. perhaps he just drives them into the mountains now instead of hanging them so close to where he breeds the dogs. I saw them, poor souls, many didn’t even have water and they were all very scared….. come on, the people of Kos, have the guts to re-open the case and bring the sub-human to justice!!!! You can be sure that the word of barbarism towards animals is reaching the outside world and the tourists will hopefully think twice before they visit your island!!! Only a week or so ago another dog was found hanged on Kos…. way to go, Mr Mayor, keep trying to cover the bones with dirty soil, but there are many of us who will dig them out and show them to the world!! Shame on you and your ugly island!!!

Sue-kos

Also please remember the recent poisoning of all the cats in the graveyard,also in Kardamena.All cats had been sterilized and were healthy and been fed every day by a local Greek lady.

Info

Has the sub-human who shot the dog been arrested?? If his name is known he should have been arrested on the same day he shot the dog….. or did the polie tip him off and he conveniently ‘disappeared’ for 48 hours so the case would not get to court for at least a few months and then it would only be a preliminary hearing while a date is set for the court case to take place…. 2-3 years later….. that’s how ‘Greek law’ works, doesn’t it?!
vesnaGAR

P.S. Vasilis, BRAVO to you for not ‘sweeping under the carpet’ this horrible monstrosity…… Is there any way that the Kardamena hangings case can be ‘opened up’ after so much time has gone by?? Vangelis Trakossas can certainly fill you in on all the details.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=517047719 Athena Bistolas-Daouros

DISGUSTING ! This man should be shot and hung by his balls! What a loser / imbecile / coward ….. He should be arrested and made an example of. It makes me embarassed and ashamed to admit I am greek . I have no respect for a government that is willing to sit back and allow this to happen … shame on the mayor. Shame on the police ! You are all cowards if you allow this to continue. Stand up and do what is right ! This man deserves jail!

Fpw29

not shot and killed first … but shot to suffer and then hang em up by the balls

Molly

I am so pleased that local people have had the courage to not only report this to the police but also to act as witnesses and give testimonials. The perpetrator of this crime and other horrific acts of animal brutality and cruelty reflect so badly on Greece as a whole. It is only when those that witness these events speak out against these despicable people that inroads will be made to call a halt to such mindless cruelty. My thanks to those that have stood up in this instance. Well done.

Helen King

Yes Molly. Prosecutions can only happen if people have the courage to stand up and be counted! Sadly, with the recent poisonings on Zakynthos, noone would. So the crimes go unpunished!
Paulpeters

Did this dog have a name, I think the people of Kos should have a memorial for this dog. To show they will no longer stand for such cruelty to any Animal’s in Greece and Kos. Its’ oneway of showing this can’t go on. This brave dog went through so much torment then in the end for his life to be taken so brutally. It’s so sad & brave.

Kerri

Maybe we should shoot this person and throw them down a well also !!!!
eva a-c christiansen

To the mayor and police on Kos.
Wake up!!!!I know you dont care a shit about dogs,I know you are protecting a bastard who hangs dog,You all behave like cowards and you do belive that your island is a closed unit where only you know whats going on!Wake up!!!!
Kos is a part of EU,Your income is tourist,what do you want…loose your income? Do you want to starve and have no water to drink?Be aware,WE KNOW about you,WE WONT FORGET what happends to all the hunged dogs,WE WONT forget about no trial to the abuser and sure,- WE WONT visit your island (only for to help a dog or cat to get away from your barbaric island)Be sure,we are many out here,communicating,..we will follow you and the hunged dogs until justice has spooken!

ToBeOrNotToBe

In defense of the police here in Kos,they are just doing there job and are not protecting at all this bastard.The problem is the Greek system.(It’s also not true that the government don’t care,they give money to officially recognized organisations,like ZOEK ask V.T.),because I suppose Vangelis Trakossas went to the police with photos and tell them to arrest this guy.Had they caught him in the 48 hrs then they would have questioned him,there are 2 witnesses,so they would find him guilty and..he had to remain in prison till due to court…The court have also many other cases more urgent and so the date to court can be i.e. in 5 years,which means they have to keep him that many years in prison.After maybe the court will tell him (if they found him guilty)to do 5 yrs,which means he will be released right away cause he already done those years.Now if the court don’t find him guilty then the government have to pay him for those 5 yrs he was locked away.The other problem is also that the 2 witnesses have to pay for a lawyer and that is exactly why so many crimes are going unpunished,who has the money for a lawyer?Now that the 48 hrs has passed the police still can give him the paper for court IF the 2 witnesses pay a lawyer of course and want to continue.The abuser can refuse 3 times to go in court but then the court will rule without him.So you see it has nothing to do with people being cowards,or not wanting this man to get caught.I hope I cleared that up.

vesnaGAR

Well, ToBeOrNotToBe, you just explained very clearly why the Greek justice system sucks and why animal abusers & killers are laughing and committing more criminal acts against helpless animals. The Greek authorities let scumbag’s like the sub-human who shot the dog (and the word is that it’s not the first time he has done so) literally get away with murder, or is the killing of an animal not seen as murder in Greece?? Actually, probably not…. Anybody can abuse & kill an animal in Greece and still walk free on the streets. By the time this pathetic dog killer gets served a summons for the court hearing he may well die, or the judge would say: ”let this poor old man live the remainder of his years in peace”……. On 25 February some bastard hanged a dog on Kos……I’m sure that the file whole ‘incident’ has been forgotten by now…… When I was on Kos last year, a dog was hanged….. a horrific sight….. what about the Kardamena dog hanger… everybody knows who he is, but are to scared to file a complaint or sign any statemnet for fear of revenge. Mafia is alive and kicking on Kos and all over Greece, because that’s how the country functions….. just read a two-page article in a national UK newspaper about the corruption in Greece… a third of population evade paying tax and I just bet that 80% of them are not hard up but have good businesses etc.
So, Mr Shakespearian, be proud to be Greek!!!
Viva corruption! Viva injustice! Viva deception!! The ancestors of Anciant Greece are likely turning in their graves, hanging their heads in shame!!!

ToBeOrNotToBe

Yes the system sucks we can all agree on that,but hello??Is for you a murderer of a human being the same level as an animal murderer??Even not in the UK!I don’t think you understood what the problem is here,I suggest you read my comment again,with people like you it’s like I’m talking to a wall anyway,you are worse then animal abusers,you ask people for money,pretend to help,but all you do is blablabla.Come on then all those who get donations to help animals,why don’t you offer those 2 witnesses you pay for the lawyer??You are assuming a lot but don’t know shit,I’m fed up of your made up theories.
I repeat bring on a lawyer and actually something will happen ,,why don’t you walk tour talk for a change,instead of telling other people what they should do!

ToBeOrNotToBe

Oh,and don’t believe everything you read,..

ToBeOrNotToBe

And about the Kardamena dog hanger:same applies here,you want him arrested?Have evidence?Get a lawyer and it will be done,people just arguing on the internet nothing will happen..

ToBeOrNotToBe

*your
vesnaGAR

Mr-know-it-all (to-be-or-not-to-be)………..Why don’t YOU pay for the lawyer if you want to see justice done?? You make enough money from animals through your work. What ‘caring’ vet would actually breed and sell puppies…….. as you did many years ago from the Caucasians you bred & sold and surprise, surprise, suddenly many abandoned stray pups and adult dogs were Caucasian-mix breeds.
Since it’s known WHO shot the dog, the public prosecutor should have dealt with the case directly!!
Thanks to our financial help for animals in Greece (every year approximately 150,000euros!!!), Since I founded our charity 22 years ago (after a nightmare ‘holiday’ in Greece in 1987), thousands of animals have been rescued, treated, sterilised, homed etc. You know very well that there would be no shelter on Kos without OUR regular support!!! What do YOU do for the shelter??? Provide free neutering??? Kos is over-run with stray cats….. do you and other vets on Kos allocate some time to sterilise a few here and there for free??? No, you don’t and neither do you allow foreign vets to come to Kos to carry out FREE neutering!

You ask why don’t we pay a Greek lawyer to take up the case of the shot dog…… Even if we did (but even Greek lawyers suck!), that would not bring the matter to court for who knows how many years and in the meantime we would be fleeced of the money our supporters give to HELP animals rather than paying for the work the GREEK AUTHORITIES SHOULD BE DOING!!!!

ToBeOrNotToBe

My work has nothing to do with animals,aw… you thought I’m a vet,I’m flattered,but no.Guess again,again a wrong assumption,you seem to have a lot of those.
Although not a vet I’m quite up to date what your fake organisations are doing or better NOT doing.Saved 1000s of strays ,yeah whatever,I don’t know any vet here who is breeding and selling puppies,I only know caring vets,who themselves take care of strays without asking for donations.
150.000 euro?don’t make me laugh,thousands of strays have been neutered for free by our vets,even for free for your organisations but that stopped because you as a thank you very much started bringing in pets from their costumers!!And fyi ZOEK gets money from the government,so if you have complaints about how things are done here,you should complain to Vangelis!
And what shelter are you talking about,the strays are set free again by the old town and by the castle!
Oh you can’t help yourself can you,”Greek lawyers suck”,if you had tried at least once in all those 22 yrs you would have known we have some excellent lawyers!
See?I told you in advance you wouldn’t have understand,although I was giving you a hint what to do,if you really cared.
You have never tried but you are so sure it would not bring the matter to court,all you can do is blabla bla.
Stop whining about what others should do.
Oh and I would pay myself for a lawyer if I had the money..

vesnaGAR

To be or whatever……… YES, we have saved THOUSANDS of animals, including the lioness RENA from her stinky concrete cage at G’s farm!!!
I didn’t say we spend 150,000 a year for animals on Kos alone, but at various shelters around Greece and a number of animal rescue volunteers. NO Greek vets on Kos have sterilised any animals for free on our behalf. As for Vangelis and YES, their shelter, why don’t you visit and see for yourself and ask Vangelis where all the money the government is giving them is supposed to be …. certainly not in their pockets!! To say there’s no shelter on Kos shows how ignorant you are.. And if you’re not the person I thought you to be, I doubt you would know much about me anyway. But why don’t you google: GREEK ANIMAL RESCUE and learn a few facts. I was at the ruins last year and that crazy Ignadius is still pretending to care about the cats and gullible tourists give him money. I saw a few strays in the harbour (Jaana and I actually rescued a tiny Shih Tzu, who was a ball of matted fur…. dreadful state and terrified of people…. he’s happily homed in Germany now). How many strays survive from one year to the next on the streets and not be poisoned?? Very few!! How many are hanged??
I said a vet on Kos bred and sold Caucasians many years ago, not now. You keep twisting my words, but that’s so typical of Greeks….. but in the end you end up with egg on the face!! Do you think that Greece is held in high esteem by other countries??? Is it heck!!!
We adopted 2 dogs from Kos in 1995…. ask Jaana…. Patrick was in a dreadful state and ultimately he needed complicated surgery on both forelegs when he came to UK through quarantine. Sadly bot he and Cozy died since, but we have 7 Greek dogs still in our house…. the last two – Ellie, from Salamina, was burned with cigarettes…. Mala was shot in the face on Crete…. what a lovely country Greece is!!

ToBeOrNotToBe

I’m not twisting your words,lol,where did you get that from,and from the way you write I can understand what sad racist person you are,it is in fact ARK that put strays back by the castle and ruins and it was a Maria Winterleitnersauerkraut working with you guys who brought strays to vets to get them helped for free!
The strays she wanted them to cut a piece out of the ear,so she would know which cats had been neutered and which not the next time when she had to catch them again.But then she was telling which to cut the ears and which not to cut,so the vet understood those weren’t strays.Just cats from people who wanted to get them neutered for free!
And get your head out of the clouds!I saw someone posting a report about the animal abuse from the UK,same things are happening there,you’re a big lier and hypocrite,English people like to deny and point elsewhere,to hide what is happening in there own country!What a lovely 2 faced people in UK!

ToBeOrNotToBe

Yes I am wondering where the money from the government goes,I don’t think Vangelis will tell me.I so happen to hear a lady yesterday,she was very angry because she takes care of a lot of stray cats,but she couldn’t understand why she didn’t get some financial help,(she is someone without job,she only cares about her cats don’t want to have anything to do with people,but wondered why Vangelis is getting 1500 euro a month from the government in her opinion she do more for strays then he does)Of course she maybe forget that the government recognize only one official organisation in each area,like ZOEK,not like ARK.For me what a shelter should be is a warm dry place where people take care of the strays and feed them and if possible find a home for them,(in fact I know a vet here who does that),I can’t call a place like ARK shelter if you release strays back on the street!Of course you are pissed because you don’t want people to know!

ToBeOrNotToBe

As you can see I’ve learned a few facts about ARK,but I’m not against them,heck they do good for some animals and every animal saved counts,so whatever lies you spread,and live from peoples donations who want to clear their conscience,because really if everyone instead of giving money would take care of the strays there wouldn’t be a problem anymore.
Sue-kos

Just feel I should address a few points here as well.Ark is not a shelter.we are a very small number of people trying so hard to end suffering for animals.We are a non-profit,legally regristered charity,since last June ,on the island which has gone through the courts.To date we have had no help from the Government or other organisations and rely soley on the generousity of the public for the money we need to survive.We have re-homed 112 dogs and 7 cats since we started,all of which were sterilized,vaccinated,wormed/de-flead,and had chips and passports,done with a local vet,we have sterilized around 20 more which we hope will also be re-homed,and treated many others for sickness or injury.
It was, maybe is our intention of building a sanctuary for animals,but only if other measures can be put in place to solve the long term problems,like edcuation in all schools,an enforcment of the existing laws and large sterilization programs in order to get the population especially of cats under control,and therefor making the animals lives better.Otherwise it just becomes a dumping groung for every un wanted animal,and where as we would like to help them all,we wouldnt have the manpower or money to do it.
The way for us to move forward would be to start small,employing maybe one person,so we could only cater for a small number of the most needy animals,but all it would take is one person to dump a mother and pups and we would be in trouble.There are just not enough people helping,or enough money.
Just as well for the record,I worked for a long time as a volunteer for another organisation,and the reason I set up Ark is because my feelings are that if an animal crosses my path,and I can find it a good home I want to do that,and I dont want to put animals on the street where they are in grave danger.I get so many calls asking me to take in animals and I just cant I have 16 already,we need fosters to help us,where we will supply all the medical care and food and support we can,sadly no one feels able to do this.
Of course it goes without saying,that during a large sterilization program,the animals are returned to exactly their own territory,where they know where to get food/water/shelter.Many ,many times I have been asked not to bring back sterilized cats,as they are not wanted,but this is the way it has to be done,Im afraid,we have no choice and certainly no room to keep the 1000s of stray cats.
I do hope this has been helpful,and anyone wanting more info can make contact through the animal rescue kos facebook page,until our website ,now under construction is up and running
Sue-kos

If you can tell me who this lady is its possible that we can help out with some food for the cats she is caring for…..
elainec

That is really kind of you, I will send you a pm via facebook, as I dont want to embarrass her.
Anonymous

Answer to ToBeOrNotToBe
As an active member of Z.O.E.K. since it was legally registrated in 1992 I have been able to follow the developement of animal welfare on Kos. I am happy to see that many things have changed since then, but also often frustrated that animal abuse /cruelty is still so common here in the island . Our members deal with these cases every day.Over these years we have been able to rescue , rehome , neuter,treat and help in other ways THOUSANDS of animals (domestic and wild) . That would not have been possible without the help of many active volunteers and foreign animal welfare organizations (like Greek Animal Rescue and Tierhilfe-Kos) which have been founded to help the animals in Greece . The local munisipalities have occasially supported our animal welfare society (for example in the last four years the munisipality of Kos spend 300 euros to buy dry dogfood, which means approx. 20 cents per day!!). Your ridicilous accusation that our society ( or the president of the society ) receives 1500 euros per month from the “government” is a lie. As we are not hiding behind the screen of computer-anonymously- and have no time to senseless internet conversations, we challenge you to have a talk with us face to face. Our telephone numbers are available in Kos-Explorer.
behalf of Z.O.E.K
Jaana Trakossa
elainec

Well said Jaana, but of course we all knew the situation anyway and the tremendous effort you make every day for the animals. I guarantee that the moron you refer to will never reveal his identity, sadly that is how these people behave, making snide comments and accusations just for the fun of it, they are gutless and of little use to society!!

Sue-kos

I have noticed this comment made before but I have overlooked it.Ark has never put cats at the castle or ruins.To do so would put the cats at danger due to the high level of sick cats that are there.
About the ears been cut I remembered when I first got involved with sterilization I was shocked about this,I had the cats that were at the home I moved into sterilized,all 12 of them,and buried the dead babies of many.AsI already had my own cats and dogs,all strays and all paid for myself.It was a huge relief to do this as I hadnt got the money to pay for them all to be done.I didnt know about the ears been cut so that they could be recgonised ,and was shocked when I saw it.These animals all still live around my house with another 3 that have been dumped here since,and I feed them and take car of them as best I can.Some of the cats Ark comes accross,will be sick or injured and if we have the people to help will stay in a foster,while we try and find a home and I would love if in this case the ears didnt have to be cut,as they will go to a responsible new home and wont ever be back on the street again.
There are many people I know of on the island with many cats near where they live or work.Animal lovers care very deeply and get very attached to the animals.Some can afford to feed them but with regards to sterilizations or sick/injured cats they just havnt the money for the vets bills,especially as there is usually many cats.When I sorted out the money end with one of the vets we use I explained this to him,and I think he understood and took it on board.
Im not sure when or which vets here were involved in frree sterilizations as,Ark and the other organization I used to volunteer for always had a bill at the vets.The only other time I was involved was when Maria W was paying a vet to sterilize street cats,many people helped to bring in cats as I remember,and 100s were done over a period of time.

vesnaGAR

Stray cats have to be marked after they are sterilised, so that they can be identified in future and are not trapped accidentally and opened up again because there’s no way of telling if they were done or not. While cutting the tip of the ear of the cat (while still under anaesthetic of course) causes minimal discomfort or bleeding, unfortunately the same can’t be done with dogs. Where possible, a small tattoo (even just a letter S – for sterilised) on the inside of the ear is best. Of course it’s obvious to see which male dogs have been neutered, but not so in females if only a short cut is made & only a few stitches used.
As for Maria W….. maybe not the easiest person to get on with (we’ve never met but I’ve spoken with her many times), but she is passionate about cats & getting as many sterilised as is possible. The bonus of that work is also that each cat is dewormed, sprayed for fleas and is generally checked out to see it’s healthy to be released.
ToBeOrNotToBe

Very recently a Greek girl wrote in a group( don’t remember the name,but will look it up) that she was looking for a home for some cats she said she had brought them to you but you or someone from ARK wouldn’t take them and told her she better looked to re-home them herself because they would end up by the castle.I’m not going to name the vet because I don’t know if want to get involved,but Maria’s cats were sterilized for free in the beginning,when she came back with more and more plus with cats from costumers (suddenly no one was going to the vets for sterilization),the vet get pissed of and with reason.Next time Maria came she was told sorry but no can do,only if you pay.Maria didn’t like that and started a slander campaign against the vets here!There is more going on with Maria but it is not my place to write them here.I only say this,I hope justice will be done for all animals abused.
Sue-kos

You are right in one thing we cant take any more animals,we have no where to keep them…except our own homes,and I already have 16,the other 4 fosters we have are also full,and despite appeals no one can foster for us…sad but true.The best we can do at the moment, and this I advise most people ,is to send us in photographs of the animals and we put them on facebook looking for homes.Also it becomes a bit better in the summer we are talking to tourists about the animals we are trying to re-home.On some occassions we will help out with food.Also if they are kittens or pups we insist on sterilizing the mothers,so it doesnt happen again.

elainec

Vesna, I imagine by this morning you have realised you are wasting your time answering that individual! He says he is not a vet but appears to have the same sort of attitude of a very greedy vet who is financially screwing everyone on Kos at the present time, however, this particular individual evidently doesnt have the animal knowledge. He can only answer with immature statements like your “fake” organisation or once again bring in the old chestnut about animal abuse in the U.K. to justify the appalling situation in Greece. What a moron to keep quoting u.k. incidents on a Kos forum. I think he is forgetting one vital factor, that these incidents are published in national newspapers and prosecution is sought with EVERY case ever reported. Just like Greece, NOT!!!

Witnesses having to pay for a lawyer, what a joke and what a surprise in such a civilised society! In that case, why cant the municipality employ a lawyer – well we know why not, because the mayor and his cronies dont give a damn either. So what is the point of the directive issued last August by the Chief of Police regarding animal abuse. Not worth the paper it’s written on unless you are wealthy enough to engage a lawyer! Unbelieveable!!!

ToBeOrNotToBe

Careful there Elaine,you may start believing your own lies,you both are deceitful, dishonest, two-faced.And yes as long you say Greece is the worse country for animal abuse I will proof you otherwise!Of course you say so,you are the one making money out of it!So keep up lying,people will understand sooner or later!You 2 are a bunch of amateurs that I was expecting at least to know how to get the justice system works here.But you don’t want to spend your hard earned (begged)money on that do you?You of all people should know what the laws are cause it would help you in this kind of cases .The only thing you know because you are to arrogant to find out is PREJUDICE,that’s because you’re ignorant you are.You will never help a case,just whine and slander people on the internet.Well I’m sorry I don’t share your assumptions!The vets here do what they can for strays,you instead see them as your opponents,I know enough about you 2,you remind me Nazi’s,they were also very loving and taking so good care of their dogs but we all know what they did to people!Of course you don’t like me posting here about the UK,you don’t want to be reminded!Oh sure in the UK lawyers work for free,lol.I’ll end my discussion here,I knew I was talking to a wall,but I’m showing people the other side of the story,oh and Elaine I think more cases are being reported in Greece then in the UK,and you can read allover the internet about it,it’s not exactly that Greece is hiding anything,like UK where most cases are unreported!Vangelis can get a lawyer and continue this case,let’s make an example of this animal abuser!So others when they hear about might think again before doing such crime!But naah,just go on and waste your time and gossip all you want here.You have no manners at all,funny enough you value your opinions so freaking much.You know opinions are like asses, everybody got one. If you want people to listen to you, you at least have to talk without insults. I have the right to disagree with you,so I shared my thoughts here.
I’m off to do better things then wasting any more time with you both,have a good day!

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Heather Leigh

Greece disgusts me…I lived on Crete for just 3yrs & saw what went on with dogs…they are senitent living beings & deserve to be treated as such…the Greek government needs to wake-up to the fact that the world is watching!.
corfu dogs

Everywhere in Greece there are people known to repeatedly abuse animals but no one in authority can be bothered to do anything. People are abused and nothing is done; how can we expect justice for animals? Sad.
R Dennill

How disgusting that this person starved the dog for a week before destroying it so brutally – it seems he wanted it to suffer terribly. Please, whoever can do anything to increase the chances of a maximum sentence after a successful prosecution, do it. Turn out at court to protest, create a petition, lobby your politicians, print and distribute your news. You are not alone! If you have email addresses etc, many of us will join your campaign. And add those other cases Vesna speaks of, too. Let’s turn this sickening history of cruelty into something good for those creatures not yet hurt.
angela done

A massive thank you to the people on Kos that reported this and made a stand against this monster of a man.
Paulpeters

I think it’s awful the way some people treat animal. Animals should have the same rights to live a cruelty free life. If it had been a child tied up for six days I’m sure people would have acted sooner, Then for it’s owner to go up a shoot it like that is a horrible act of cruelty. (It’s murder) if it had been a human being it would be classed has murder. The thing about dog’s they are very loyal to there owner’s no matter what they might suffer, I’m sure if someone had untied that poor dog, with the right caring owner it would of made a wonderful pet. But it wasn’t given that choice. May it rest in peace…..
Angela, Zakynthos

Good luck with the proscecution. Lets hope Kos can pave a path for the rest of Greece in getting justice for animal abuse. Maximum penalty please.
vesnaGAR

Please, Vassilis, is there any further news??? Has the evil killer of the dog been arrested by now??

Sue-kos

Spoke with Vangellis earlier,he has not yet been caught but rest assured Vangellis or the police will get the coward who has gone into hiding….

ToBeOrNotToBe

How about starting a petition and hand it over to the judge to put more pressure?
I mean eventually they will catch the bastard and bring him in court..
It’s easily done with Care2.

Rania

Please we should be careful because as I know the witness called the police this morning because he saw this bastard at 6.30 a.m. in his house and they told him that they cannot arrest him becase 24 hours have been past. I hope that this will not be another covered case.

elainec

The 24 hours thing doesnt sound quite right, I think if he disappears for at least 48 hours, it can hold up any proceedings and then run into months or even years. Nothing would surprise me though!!

Nena

How about making it bigger and writting a letter of complaint, with many signatures and sending to the Mayor of Kos BOSS who is Mr Mahairidis??? maybe becoming the whole bigger might pull things faster????

Paulpeters

I will send one from the UK If that’s helps just give me the address, I’ll be more then happy to get signatures from loads of dog/animal lover’s over here. My dog was a rescue dog and his a loyal loving companion. He and his brother George where abandon at 3 weeks old on a hot bank holiday. There where taken care of by the RSPCA till they where 3 months. Then I adopted Austin, he’s very much apart of our family.

Paulpeters

Did this dog have a name, I think the people of Kos should have a memorial for this dog. To show they will no longer stand for such cruelty to any Animal’s in Greece and Kos. Its’ oneway of showing this can’t go on. This brave dog went through so much torment then in the end for his life to be taken so brutally. It’s so sad & brave.

elainec

In my opinion, not a good idea, with such a huge problem, there is no place for such sentimentality. What about all the other very many cats and dogs, hanged, poisoned and shot on Kos? To give all the victims in Kos alone a memorial would constitute the whole of the island being in permanent state of mourning. A dog found was found hanged last week as an example.

elainec

This has been done many times in the past with no positive result, but no harm in trying yet again I suppose:

Mayor of Kos:
Mr George Kaiserlis, E-mail: kos_mayor@kos.gr

Municipality of Kos
Town Hall
Head office
7, Akti Kountourioti Street 85300 KOS , DODEKANISSOS , GREECE
Tel.: +30 22420 28420, 28223, 22420
Fax: +30 22420 21341

http://community.bloghology.org/ Vasilis Pasparas – Publisher

wrong name. the mayors first name isnt George, its Kostas

hansen

It shows once agan how the awefull greek people treats animal every day, they diddent have a hart……
vesnaGAR

Mr-know-it-all ………..Why don’t YOU pay for the lawyer if you want to see justice done?? You make enough money from animals through your work. What ‘caring’ vet would actually breed and sell puppies…….. as you did many years ago from the Caucasians you bred & sold and surprise, surprise, suddenly many abandoned stray pups and adult dogs were Caucasian-mix breeds.
Since it’s known WHO shot the dog, the public prosecutor should have dealt with the case directly!!
Thanks to our financial help for animals in Greece (every year approximately 150,000euros!!!), Since I founded our charity 22 years ago (after a nightmare ‘holiday’ in Greece in 1987), thousands of animals have been rescued, treated, sterilised, homed etc. You know very well that there would be no shelter on Kos without OUR regular support!!! What do YOU do for the shelter??? Provide free neutering??? Kos is over-run with stray cats….. do you and other vets on Kos allocate some time to sterilise a few here and there for free??? No, you don’t and neither do you allow foreign vets to come to Kos to carry out FREE neutering!

You ask why don’t we pay a Greek lawyer to take up the case of the shot dog…… Even if we did (but even Greek lawyers suck!), that would not bring the matter to court for who knows how many years and in the meantime we would be fleeced of the money our supporters give to HELP animals rather than paying for the work the GREEK AUTHORITIES SHOULD BE DOING!!!!
ToBeOrNotToBe

My work has nothing to do with animals,aw… you thought I’m a vet,I’m flattered,but no.Guess again,again a wrong assumption,you seem to have a lot of those.
Although not a vet I’m quite up to date what your fake organisations are doing or better NOT doing.Saved 1000s of strays ,yeah whatever,I don’t know any vet here who is breeding and selling puppies,I only know caring vets,who themselves take care of strays without asking for donations.
150.000 euro?don’t make me laugh,thousands of strays have been neutered for free by our vets,even for free for your organisations but that stopped because you as a thank you very much started bringing in pets from their costumers!!And fyi ZOEK gets money from the government,so if you have complaints about how things are done here,you should complain to Vangelis!
And what shelter are you talking about,the strays are set free again by the old town and by the castle!
Oh you can’t help yourself can you,”Greek lawyers suck”,if you had tried at least once in all those 22 yrs you would have known we have some excellent lawyers!
See?I told you in advance you wouldn’t have understand,although I was giving you a hint what to do,if you really cared.
You have never tried but you are so sure it would not bring the matter to court,all you can do is blabla bla.
Stop whining about what others should do,
Oh and I would pay myself for a lawyer if I had the money..

jackie

I don’t want to get involved in an argument but i can say from personal experience that the vets to not help the strays for free. I don’t have a lot of money but i look after 3 cats in the house and i feed many many strays outside and i came across a really really sick cat. I asked a vet if they could help and i would treat it if it needed long term medication but i was told the only way to help it is if i paid for it. Now i have to be the one to feel guilty about this poor cat as i simply do not have the money (i really wish i did). So please do not say that the vets care and will help strays.

ToBeOrNotToBe

I think the vets are drawing a line because of some people taking advantage of them in the past like Maria who works with ARK,some people seem to forget they have to make a living to and they don’t get donations ,however they help as far that is possible for them.The one I know take care of a lot of strays,but they also can’t take up on their own all the strays there are here in Kos.

Sue-kos

You seem to have it wrong again,if I remember the last time the vets came for a sterilization programe it was last February,Ark is a legal organisation since June.
We know that vets have to make a living,we have spent nearly 3,500e treating animals with them in the last 9 months….

ToBeOrNotToBe

??
I guess you didn’t understood my comment.
I’m talking about vets from Kos not who you say came here..if those who came here were vets,not to sure about that either..
And yes I’m correct Maria took advantage that’s why they stopped working for free,that is why you pay now capisce?

Sue-kos

I am also talking about a vet on Kos whom we have an account with.As far as I am also aware the visiting vets dont charge for the work they do.Our vet helps us all the time and with the amount of animals we treat I certainly would not expect it all for nothing.No private vet could sustain this.

ToBeOrNotToBe

@ Vesna
Here is a report someone posted in a group,I thought I share it with you so you know,UK is no different with Greece,(of course you know that,you just don’t want to admit it in a forum,got a name to keep up,don’t we?)

REPORT FOR 2010 FROM RSPCA (UK)

Shocking rise in cat attacks and abandonments in 2010

31.01.11
-Last year we saw the numbers of cats being shot, abandoned and attacked rise, challenging our reputation as an animal-loving country.

-Victims of terrifying attacks

We received 205 reports of cats being shot in 2010. We believe that this is just the tip of the iceberg as many attacks go unreported and some owners don’t even realise that their pets have been shot.

In one attack, a cat named Marley was found to have a staggering 21 pellets in his body. Marley was shot at close range. He had been missing for 12 hours when his distraught owner discovered him in a desperate amount of pain.

In another, a cat named Lightning narrowly escaped death after a pellet hit her side and grazed her liver. Then, at the end of the year, a cat named George was found collapsed in his garden, he had been shot through the heart and died soon after.

Cats were also the victims of other terrifying attacks including being set on by dogs, thrown from buildings and one young cat who was found with a shoelace tied so tightly around his neck that it ate into the flesh and became infected.

-Dramatic rise in cat abandonments

In addition to the shootings and attacks there has been a dramatic rise in the number of cats abandoned. In 2008, there were 7,609 abandonments reported to the RSPCA. In 2009, this number rose to 8,310 and by the end of 2010, the total reached an incredible 10,610.

These include cats dumped in cat carriers in Chesterfield, 12 cats dropped out of a car in South Wales and three incidents of cats being left next to rubbish bins in Plymouth

FRIGHTENING TREND!!
-RSPCA chief veterinary officer, Alastair Macmillan, said:
“The news of massive rises in abandonments and other attacks is alarming and shows a frightening trend in cat abuse and neglect.

We don’t know why we are seeing such increases and hope that people are not starting to see cats as worthless things which can be targeted with weapons or just dumped when people don’t want to care for them anymore.”

ToBeOrNotToBe

HORRIFIC ACT OF ANIMAL CRUELTY IN HEMEL HEMPSTEAD

disturbing, extreme act of cruelty to a much loved family pet. ‘Red’ a three year old male cross breed dog was stolen from his owner’s garden in Grove Hill, Essex Mead, Hemel Hempstead

Two men were seen loitering in the area at the
time. Red was found in a traumatised state near his owner’s home on Monday evening. He had been brutally tortured. He had cigarette burns to his ears, puncture marks on his body and the base of his tail snapped leaving him with no control over his bowel and bladder. He was sadly put to sleep to end his suffering.

It is suspected that he was used and tortured by evil individuals involved with dog fighting and dragged or swung around by his tail causing the fracture. Frances McGrath, Red’s owner who has been totally devastated by this heinous act of cruelty states “Red was the most gentle and trusting dog. He was a quiet, loving, loyal companion. He loved watching the telly. He was dearly loved. He would have been totally defenceless against the cruel actsinflicted on him. His torturers and killers must be caught before they do this again to another cherished pet”.

Yep that’s right Vesna,how come these criminals haven’t been brought in prison?Are the people afraid for revenge?

ToBeOrNotToBe

Kitten dies in agony after being microwaved and binned.
A pet kitten died an agonising death after a four-year-old boy put her in a microwave oven.
The screaming animal, named Cassie, was left to cook for two minutes before being found by the youngster’s mother.
Owner Claire Frear, 23, was said to have heard her four-month-old pet’s cries and opened the microwave to find the animal ‘fitting.’
It was then dumped on a binbag outside the family home and left to die.(from Mail Online)

ToBeOrNotToBe

Evil brother microwaves family’s pet (Mirror news)
A cruel teenager who cooked his little brother’s pet hamster in a microwave was locked up yesterday.

The 16-year-old left the helpless animal with scorched internal organs and burnt its hind leg down to the bone. It was put down the following day.

ToBeOrNotToBe

Liverpool:

THUGS put a rabbit in a microwave and cooked it in a horrific attack on a young mother’s home.

Law student Nicola Donnelly came home to Hazel Road,Huyton,from a weekend away and discovered blood daubed all over her kitchen walls.

She later found the rabbit’s body stuffed in her freezer. Her children’s pet goldfish had also been stamped to death in her kitchen.

The burglars had also painted white gloss paint all over the ground floor windows and ransacked the house. Neighbours had already alerted police to the break-in when Nicola returned to her home in the early hours of Sunday morning.

I’m sorry Vesna there is way more,but i think you get the picture,I don’t see any difference between UK or Greece!

vesnaGAR

To be a PRAT or not to be a PRAT…. that is the question.
How typical of a Greek to resort to insults and shouting: RACIST, LIAR etc when they’ve run out of anything logical to say.

Firstly, Of course there’s animal cruelty in every country, including UK (which has 5-6 times as large population as Greece), but here at least it’s being dealt with…. animal abusers & killers are punished…. private individuals don’t have to pay lawyers to deal with prosecutions, in other words, in UK we have laws which are APPLIED and don’t exist only on paper, as in Greece, at least where punishing animal abusrs is concerned.

Secondly….. you accused me of being racist!! How pathetic you are!!! It’s that the best you can do?? I have many Greek friends who are far more outspoken about their country & it’s citizens than I am. They are ASHAMED to be Greeks!!! Unlike you, they are not flying a Greek flag with pride – in fact they would fush it down the toilet.

Tell me, WHY are there so many foreign based organisations helping animals in Greece??? There must be at least 15, some more active then others. BESCAUSE WHEN PEOPLE GO YO GREECE AND SEE THE ABJECT MISERY OF TENS OF THOUSANDS OF ANIMALS THEY FEEL COMPELLED TO HELP!!! Greece doesn’t deserve to be in the EU – it should have been left in the gutter it was in prior to joining the EU in 1981. Billions of euros were given to the Greeks, wonderful motorways, bridges and tunnels built, everybody was buying new cars, the banks were encouraging people to borrow money, but the Greeks are INCAPABLE of running their own affairs. Look at the railway system, for example. 14 BILLION euros IN THE RED, it had to close down numerous tracks/stations…..

I saw a comment by Elaine and you attacking her and claiming she ‘makes money’ from animals in Greece – she in fact DONATES monthly an amount of money to HELP animals in Greece!!

If you are not the person I thought you were, why are you hiding behind a made up name? You also seem to know what’s going on in Kos re sterilisations etc. Maria W. should be congratulated for her tireless work to raise funds for sterilisation projects. So what if the odd owned cat is sterilised….. lets be grateful that the owners at least agree to get them done. In current economic crisis, few people can afford to pay full vet fees.

ToBeOrNotToBe

Why are you posting your comments twice all the time?You think they are that great,lol?

Have fun reading my same answer:

Do you actually read what you write?Lol?Only the way you start “typical Greek”,you’re stereotyping,whatever,it’s obvious you’re very anti-Greek if not racist.;)
The only one shouting here is you,I don’t write all in caps,except for >–>LOL
You say one thing and at the same time you show the opposite, keep on going,doing a great job here..
1)Also in the UK many animal abusers have never been punished.
don’t pretend.Not only because they couldn’t catch the bastards,but also because many cases are unreported.
2)I’m not flying a Greek flag,I’m not Greek,lol again.
3)many foreign organizations are helping in Greece,because in their own country they have better and bigger officially recognized organizations,that gain more trust by it’s citizens because better known,so far more people will send there donations there.
Much more to earn for your small organizations by telling people you help animals in Greece “worse country where people are barbarians”is it not?
Show a few cases and the people will pull their wallets.
4) Don’t forget I live in Greece and you can yell all you want,but you really have to stop exaggerating,people are not coming here for a holiday and see tens of thousands of animals in misery,lol.
5)In fact many people love Greece and come back every year.
6)You would love to see Greece in the gutter,ok,lol,less people who can afford to take care of animals,or haven’t you noticed,worse the economy in a country,worse the situation of the animals,how stupid you are,you talk and talk but don’t make any sense.
7)Wrong people are in the wrong place,I agree,but what has a railway to do with animal abuse??
8)I know you are dying to know who I am,but I already explained to Elaine why I use this name,I don’t like repeating,scroll through the comments you will find your answer
Maria W is a greedy, 2 faced ,guilty of slander and many more I am not going to discuss with you. Sterilizations done by our vets yes.
9)Those owners were already costumers from our vets,who knows maybe they payed Maria!

ToBeOrNotToBe

Did I say Elaine is making money?Where?

Jackie

look cruelty goes on everywhere but at least in England if the perpetrator is caught they are dealt with either fines or jail and then banned from keeping animals for life. Where as here very rarely do people get punished for these crimes.

As for articles about cruelty… I have heard first hand from a young school boy (but i cannot prove) that him and his friends set a cat on fire and watched it die and on another occasion tied a fire work to the back end of a dog and blew its legs off. (here in Kos)

Now things could go on forever comparing stories but the main thing here is that we all have to work together to put pressure on the local authorities and government to stop these horrific acts. Vets, animal lovers and politicians need to forget their differences, stop arguing and work as a team and maybe we might just get somewhere.
vesnaGAR

To be a PRAT or not to be a PRAT…. that is the question.
How typical of a Greek to resort to insults and shouting: RACIST, LIAR etc when they’ve run out of anything logical to say.

Firstly, Of course there’s animal cruelty in every country, including UK (which has 5-6 times as large population as Greece), but here at least it’s being dealt with…. animal abusers & killers are punished…. private individuals don’t have to pay lawyers to deal with prosecutions, in other words, in UK we have laws which are APPLIED and don’t exist only on paper, as in Greece, at least where punishing animal abusrs is concerned.

Secondly….. you accused me of being racist!! How pathetic you are!!! It’s that the best you can do?? I have many Greek friends who are far more outspoken about their country & it’s citizens than I am. They are ASHAMED to be Greeks!!! Unlike you, they are not flying a Greek flag with pride – in fact they would fush it down the toilet.

Tell me, WHY are there so many foreign based organisations helping animals in Greece??? There must be at least 15, some more active then others. BESCAUSE WHEN PEOPLE GO YO GREECE AND SEE THE ABJECT MISERY OF TENS OF THOUSANDS OF ANIMALS THEY FEEL COMPELLED TO HELP!!! Greece doesn’t deserve to be in the EU – it should have been left in the gutter it was in prior to joining the EU in 1981. Billions of euros were given to the Greeks, wonderful motorways, bridges and tunnels built, everybody was buying new cars, the banks were encouraging people to borrow money, but the Greeks are INCAPABLE of running their own affairs. Look at the railway system, for example. 14 BILLION euros IN THE RED, it had to close down numerous tracks/stations…..

I saw a comment by Elaine and you attacking her and claiming she ‘makes money’ from animals in Greece – she in fact DONATES monthly an amount of money to HELP animals in Greece!!

If you are not the person I thought you were, why are you hiding behind a made up name? You also seem to know what’s going on in Kos re sterilisations etc. Maria W. should be congratulated for her tireless work to raise funds for sterilisation projects. So what if the odd owned cat is sterilised….. lets be grateful that the owners at least agree to get them done. In current economic crisis, few people can afford to pay full vet fees.

ToBeOrNotToBe

Do you actually read what you write?Lol?Only the way you start “typical Greek”,you’re stereotyping,whatever,it’s obvious you’re very anti-Greek if not racist.;)
The only one shouting here is you,I don’t write all in caps,except for >–>LOL
You say one thing and at the same time you show the opposite, keep on going,doing a great job here..
1)Also in the UK many animal abusers have never been punished.
don’t pretend.Not only because they couldn’t catch the bastards,but also because many cases are unreported.
2)I’m not flying a Greek flag,I’m not Greek,lol again.
3)many foreign organizations are helping in Greece,because in their own country they have better and bigger officially recognized organizations,that gain more trust by it’s citizens because better known,so far more people will send there donations there.
Much more to earn for your small organizations by telling people you help animals in Greece “worse country where people are barbarians”is it not?
Show a few cases and the people will pull their wallets.
4) Don’t forget I live in Greece and you can yell all you want,but you really have to stop exaggerating,people are not coming here for a holiday and see tens of thousands of animals in misery,lol.
5)In fact many people love Greece and come back every year.
6)You would love to see Greece in the gutter,ok,lol,less people who can afford to take care of animals,or haven’t you noticed,worse the economy in a country,worse the situation of the animals,how stupid you are,you talk and talk but don’t make any sense.
7)Wrong people are in the wrong place,I agree,but what has a railway to do with animal abuse??
8)I know you are dying to know who I am,but I already explained to Elaine why I use this name,I don’t like repeating,scroll through the comments you will find your answer
Maria W is a greedy, 2 faced ,guilty of slander and many more I am not going to discuss with you. Sterilizations done by our vets yes.
9)Those owners were already costumers from our vets,who knows maybe they payed Maria!

ToBeOrNotToBe

Did I say Elaine is making money?Where?

ToBeOrNotToBe

I wasn’t going to reply here anymore,but couldn’t let this one go,good luck to you,with whatever it is you’re doing.
ToBeOrNotToBe

I wasn’t going to reply here anymore,but couldn’t let this one go,good luck to you,with whatever it is you’re doing.
elainec

Yes you did actually; got short term memory loss??? Also, whilst I am wasting my time here, just for the record, I did not say that Greece has the worst animal abuse. What I said was previously, that Greece has the worst animal abuse record, per capita, in the EU (that being because of its very small population).

“Careful there Elaine,you may start believing your own lies,you both are deceitful, dishonest, two-faced.And yes as long you say Greece is the worse country for animal abuse I will proof you otherwise!Of course you say so,you are the one making money out of it!”

Sorry to disappoint, but I also sent off some more money to a woman in desperate need of funds for cat neutering in Crete this morning.

Vesna and I are not racist, if we were, we wouldnt have so many greek friends. It seems it is you throwing all the insults.

ToBeOrNotToBe

Aw,I wasn’t meaning you in person Elaine,I’m meaning the organizations you are supporting!

And I’m sorry Elaine but you are a racist,and so is Vesna,it shows in your comments and blogs.
Deny it or not,people can find easily on the net.
I’m not insulting you just telling facts.

Have a good evening

elainec

Most of your comments are so feeble and moronic, I do wonder why anyone is giving you the courtesy of a reply, myself included. However, to liken an organisation to the Nazi regime is beyond feeble and moronic, an organisation run by someone who has given up 23 years of their life to support greeks morally and financially in an effort to make a better life for greek strays. You really are a menace to society with your nasty comments and you should definitely not reveal your identity, not through safety issues as you suggested, but sheer embarrassment to yourself and your family. If you are unable to make adult comments, dont bother to make any at all and I certainly will not be replying any more.
eva christiansen

Its completly out of proportion to introduce the word “racist” in this forum.
We are talking about the dog who was shot,the dogs there where hanged and other barbaric incidents on Kos.We are talking about that the law from your goverment from 2003 about taking care of the animals!We are talking about the letter ALL policestations in Greece recived august 2010,telling to take every animalabuse rapporting serious and we are taking about that the police and people(the abusers and friends)on Kos just dont care a shit!
And the letter you wrote about law-practise in Greece,-do you belive in that procedure your self?
Living in Greece in 11 years and being a friend of animals and dicense,I must say,-its not possible to even discus a matter with a greek.For some reason I dont know why,you cant hold onto a subject,but very fast goes into personally insulting!
I think,its up over the time,where you have to wake up on Kos,and realise that you are a part of EU.You are not (anymore)an isolated unit,where you can do as you please(including killing innocent animals).I know that communication,sharing informations and knowledge is not the greeks best side,but belive me,what happends and what is happing on Kos is SEEN by many international eyes and animalwelfare-organisations.WE CARE,also about the poor animals on Kos,and we dont let this awful incidents slip but we will be there to the end!

vesnaGAR

ToBeOrNotToBe accused me of being racist…. I suggest he reads the definition of the word racist. If I’m not mistaken, we are of the same eace, unless he thinks that the Greeks are of a SUPERIOR race. To call me and the chaity I founded as being fake is a SLANDEROUS comment, as is the accusation that I make money from animals. He is hiding behind a false name, probably so he can accuse and insult people, tell lies etc. He says that he isn’t Greek, but I’m 98% sure that he is. This poses a question…. why does he say that he’s not Greek?? Is it because he is ashamed of his heritage?
The legal system in Greece HAS TO BE CHANGED inasmuch that the identity of witnesses has to be protected in cases where there is ample evidence to prosecute an animal abuser & killer. If I lived in Greece, had some dogs/cats and happened to know that a person ‘down the road’ has been putting out poison for the animals, even if I had his name, photos – in other words, all the evidence needed, I shouldn’t have to be named as a witness and my name would become known to the poisoner…. why?? Because I’m 100% sure that my animal would be next, that long before a court hearing against the poisoner takes place, all my animals would be dead, unless I could guard them 24/7. Actually, my own life would be in peril…. that’s how things ‘work’ in Greece – mafia style intimidation & revenge. And please, To-be or not etc…don’t tell me that I’m dramatising…. this has happened to several Greek friends who’ve lost one or more animals to poison, after being threatened by the neighbours.

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vesnaGAR

It seems that you have a short memory, as Elaine rightly points out in the message below.
Then you liken Elaine and me to Nazis and I don’t know what else.
Not every person who goes to Greece on holiday is an anuimal lover, but every year – especially between May and the end of October, we receive dozens oof emails, phone calls etc from people who’ve befriended a dog/cat & are trying to find a way to get them into the UK. I explain the long procedure to them…. sometimes I find places for the animals to do their ‘quarantine’….. I go to Greece every year for 5 weeks, during which I visit some of those we support…. from Crete, Kos, Samos, Lesvos etc in the south, to Skiathos, Ioannina, Thessaloniki, Halkidiki etc + Athens of course. I see far more than an average tourist, but then I don’t go to Greece as a tourist. I don’t have to look for needy animals…. I see them everywhere…. in Sitia, for example, on a 10 minute drive, we stopped every minute or so for me to take photos of chained dogs….. over 50 just on that short distance…..

I pointed out te situation re railways in Greece as just one example of Greek incompetency ….Tens of thousands of young people with university degrees can’t get jobs in Greece, strikes are the order of the day………. all this has a LOT to do with animals…. if the Greeks are fighting so much amongst themselves, what chance do the animals have?

Right now I’m dealing with 5 different ‘cases’ of mothers & puppies and cats/kittens…. we are paying all the vet fees, but thankfully the vets we collaborate with have big hearts as well…. they take care of strays themselves. I also know vets who don’t care if an animal is a stray… like Jackie said in one of her posts….. if you can’t pay a full price they’ll show you the door.

As for me ‘exaggerating’ about the plight of animals in Greece, go to Lesvos for a week…. and Crete……, northern areas of Greece (like Serres, Drama, Komotini, Florina etc) where there are hardly any animal welfare groups. It would be a big help to ban Greece from importing (from horrible puppy farms in Hungary) thousands of pedigree puppies…. kept in glass cages on display…. on Sundays, religious holidays etc NOBODY attends to the puppies, their tiny water bowls end up full of wood shavings or newspaper….. and although some of these breeds are sold for hundreds of euros, it doesn’t mean they won’t end up on the streets one day….. dozens of English Setters are abandoned every year in Greece, ‘toy’ dogs (poodles), Boxers, Great Danes, Hukies etc etc. Anyway, there’s no point to talk to somebody who’s in complete denial that Greece is a cesspit of the EU as far as caring for animals is concerned. I bet Bulgaria and Romani will improve their animal welfare standards after a few years in the EU, inlike Greece who’ve had 30 years to do so. Incoidentally foreign vets going to Bulgaria and Romania are welcomed with open arms to carry out free neutering.

Donna

I think that overall animal cruelty is a worldwide problem. Lack of education is often to blame and of course lack of sensitivity. People feel they can take out their anger and violent urges on innocent animals. They don’t care in the slightest about the pain and suffering and simply get their kicks out of their actions. In the USA animal cruelty is a huge problem and many crimes unfortunately, even with a great SPCA force in action, are left undiscovered. Whoever you are – ToBeOrNotToBe, and all the others involved in your childish and petty arguments about which nationality is more cruet, should grow up and concentrate more on how to actually tackle the problem facing this area. By the way, when I needed 3 cats to be sterilized I would have had to find 200 euros which I didn’t have. In the end it was the voluntary vets who did the sterilization for free. The permanent vets in Kos do not do anything voluntarily as far as I can see so tell me when they do.
Anonymous

Throwing abuse at each other on this page will not solve the problem that EVERYONE here would like to see corrected. Neither will insulting the people of the island. The most positive way forward is education; care; vigilance. Western Europeans have a different way of dealing with animal welfare. Why not start promoting how animals can enhance peoples lives; guide dogs; assistance dogs; hearing dogs; Epilepsy Aware dogs; search and rescue dogs, etc. To attack our hosts on the island is unwise and will hold back any positive move forward. Why not put together a package where a unit similar to the RSPCA can monitor animals in difficult circumstance; to advise; even help; owners having difficulty with coping and step in – legally – when required; to remove the animal and supply alternative care…
Colinfromkos

An excellent post from Kayness
JTWALDIE

I am glad that this maggot has been caught, but will he get more than a slap on the wrist. I am advising anyone and everyone to stay the hell away from this place and this country as this country is well known for its statutes on animal abuse which is NONE. MAYBE NO TOURIST=NO MONEY will grab this countries politicians by the short hairs and make them stand up and pay attention to what people are saying about its current laws ON ANIMAL ABUSE! IT WILL NOT BE TOLERATED ANY MORE! GROW SOME BALLS AND CHANGE THE LAWS PERTAINING TO ANIMAL ABUSE and then maybe, just maybe you will attract some tourists!
AdrianaMagana

Yes justice must be taken for this horrific crime poor doggy may he R.I.P
SydneyExpat

Any news on the outcome of this case??
christine rogers

Absolutely disgusting, if the person that did this does not go to jail…….then there really is no justice in the world…He definitely should also be named and shamed…hopefully you will post when this has been to court….